Jeffrey Kipnis starts the fifth of the Fecundity of a Mossy Climate conversations by discussing the challenge of encountering work by younger architects like Dwayne Oyler and Jenny Wu. He shows clips from three movies to illustrate the theme of architectural effects, and surveys the last eight years of Oyler Wu Collaborative’s work. Dwayne Oyler and Jenny Wu respond to Kipnis’s interpretation of their work, and discuss careers, trajectories, competitions, intuition, and the influence of SCI-Arc.